We mostly use LTS on our servers here and the latest “stable” version on our desktops. For the most part things work and work well, but sometimes it just does strange things.. I find myself distancing Ubuntu from Linux.. “Oh, that’s just Ubuntu. A real Linux distro shouldn’t do that…”

It is so poorly tested and unstable that I’d be very afraid you’d be constantly explaining why this, this, and that doesn’t work.

Isn’t that just Ubuntu in general?

-c

P.S. In this instance it was my own fault – I thought installing a “virtual machine” off the server CD would install a command line virtual server, but it actually installs a guest virtual machine. Not quite what I was after and hence why there were limited modules in the kernel.

Anyway, here’s my words of friendly advice– don’t install Jaunty to your work machines. It is the singularly least stable incarnation of Linux I have encountered in my many (many) years of dealing with it. It is so poorly tested and unstable that I’d be very afraid you’d be constantly explaining why this, this, and that doesn’t work.

The 64-bit implementation is particularly bad. Bad, bad. Like Windows 3.1 bad.

I’m chalking it up to not being an LTS release, but good god, not only does it lock up and crash with a wide-range of “special” cases (i.e., not the machine the developer tested it on), the snarkiness of the support is unprecedented. Again, I can only chalk that up to having released a turd and now dealing with thousands of irate users wondering what the hell a BIOS IOAPIC bug, memory collision in PCI BAR allocation, GART aperture, etc. even means, much less what to do about it.

God forbid you have an Intel or ATI video card. Or Nvidia. God forbid you have video, period. There’s all kinds of regression (e.g., multi-card use is practically impossible now, audio’s often garfed, drivers aren’t cooked)

That said, I’d think, for your situation, a nice standard Debian or OpenBSD or something would be a much safer bet. I hate that I’ve found myself saying “Windoze is so lame… hang on, I have to pull some code from git, apply a couple patches, and build a custom kernel so I can get my monitor on, but then I’ll show you… oh, NFS locked up again… hang on, gotta hard reboot… and then I’ll show you…”

Good luck!

As per Chris’ suggestion I installed 8.04 and dist-upgraded my way to Jaunty. Lo and behold the server boots just fine.

I was right – the kernel modules just don’t exist for my RAID controller so the kernel can’t find my hard drive.

However, it turns out that when I was installing Intrepid and Jaunty I was choosing “Install minimal virtual machine,” because I thought “yeah, that’s what I want – a minimal virtual server (it is the server disk after all!).”

That’s not what I want.

That does, in fact, refer to a _guest_ virtual server, not a _host_ virtual server.

Hardy works because there’s no such install option.

So, I was getting too fancy for my own good. Had I selected “Virtual server” during the package selection process it actually might have then installed the correct kernel and avoided the whole mess, but I didn’t because I like to do things myself.

Thank you to you both for your suggestions, sorry to have wasted your time!

Lesson learned. Now I’m going to go and hang my head in shame..

-c

-c

I tend to roll my own with make-kpkg instead though.

Haven’t tried 8.10 cause I’ve been sticking with 8.04 LTS on the servers.. but I can test that. Given that 8.10 is the one listed in those bug reports, I’m not hopeful I think a dist-upgrade won’t work because it’s a kernel and/or initramfs thing, although I could boot the old 8.04 kernel (but then I won’t get the KVM kernel improvements).

Was hoping someone might tell me that I’m an idiot and doing something wrong, but if there’s no easy fix then I can build my own kernel, or as you suggest use the upstream ones. I think there is a PPA for them now.

Thanks again!

-c

No real suggestions come to mind (except Debian – well you did ask!). Does 8.10 work on this hardware ?

Wonder if it’s any happier if you install 8.10 then dist-upgrade to 9.04 – if it doesn’t you can at least try falling back to the 8.10 kernel to figure out if it is a kernel issue in 9.04. If the 8.10 kernel works then you could try the latest mainline kernel instead of the Ubuntu one (I run that on pretty much all my Ubuntu systems except my MythTV box).

Best of luck!